John Mellencamp

You know, it's just hard to believe anything that anybody says because everybody's spinning everything in such a way that it's just like for their purposes, you know, so, you know.

Well, here's the way you got to look at it.

This is that when you used to vote, you would go inside a place, and they would shut the curtains, and you would vote, and that was your fucking business.

It's nobody else's business.

So, like, you know, it's like, you know—

I'm for anybody that's doing good.

If you're doing good and you're not hurting somebody, go, man.

But, you know, I'm not for cheating and, you know.

How about a little morality and integrity in what you're saying and doing?

Well, it's never been that way.

It's never been that way.

I mean, in the 60s when I was a hippie, I mean, people think that this is like really bad.

No, it was really bad when fucking Russia had...

had missiles in Cuba and it was really bad when kids with long hair were getting shot at Kent State.

I mean, it was really the separation of adults and kids.

You know, there was a change that was happening.

And, of course, the change happened, and all my generation did was get to wear blue jeans to work.

That's about all we accomplished.

Trevor Burrus Back up, Joe.

What do you think the Civil War was fought about?