John Oehser

But rivalries and a little drama do add to it, and they make it fun.

So this will be fun to watch.

We'll make more of it than they do, but that's what we do, Duff.

That's what you do now.

we talk about that patience a lot of people are trying to find the magic formula yeah and i kind of go both ways on it the the old school guy and me i i think teams overdo this um i i think there is a lot to be said for

you got your coaching staff, give them a chance to have some continuity.

I think Black Monday sometimes goes way overboard and coaches lose their jobs that shouldn't.

At the same time, when you have quick turnarounds like you had, I do think it's turning into more of the NBA and the NHL and other sports where they change managers and coaches and just want quick change.

The results show maybe it works, Duff.

I mean, you're probably as conflicted as I am.

See, and that, to me, borders on ridiculous.

It is ridiculous.

Yeah.

To me, we're sometimes coordinator-storied to death these days.

I grew up a huge, huge...

NFL fan.

Until 15, 20 years ago, nobody knew who the coordinators were.

And all of a sudden, they're all mad geniuses and all this.

I get that there's something to that.

But I do think overall, the league changes a little bit too quickly on that, looking for the next best thing.