John Oehser

I'd love to see both of them back, but I'm kind of resigned to that they probably won't be.

Yeah, we'll see.

And I'm just speculating, but you haven't heard much about it yet.

And usually if there's going to be some momentum for re-signing, the whispers sort of start, not inside, I'm saying from like national.

So we'll see.

I hope we see both of them in Jaguars uniforms.

Well, media-wise, we didn't go, meaning Kai, Brian, and I.

There's representation from the Jaguars at all these off-season things.

But the decision makers, you know, I wasn't at the Senior Bowl.

I don't think any of the top guys were there.

And the top guys, meaning Liam and James, my understanding is, won't go to the Combine.

And I'll let them speak to exactly why.

But it's more that they just don't really believe that on, you know, seeing these guys run 40s,

is not necessarily how they want to have their impressions made of these players.

Is that what you're trying to say?

So they don't want to have their impressions solely by non-football things.

It's more of a philosophical point of view.

And the Rams do it this way, Duff.

They don't send McVay or Les Snead to that event.

the Rams and the North Star here.