John Siracusa

we're having a lot of issues in design.

All of a sudden, there's a bunch of turnover.

All of a sudden, new things start happening in design.

We start hearing new names and the things we know about those names make us think that Apple will be making different decisions related to design in the future because we know the people that left and we know the people that are coming in and those are people have very different opinions about how to do design.

Now, does John Ternus know anything about design?

I don't know, but it seems like

things are changing in a direction that makes us out here who are dissatisfied with design happier.

And if that's the result of John Turner's parachuting in, even though the org chart hasn't changed and just being like, oh, I'm your executive sponsor or whatever, like representing them in meetings and blah, blah, blah.

Yeah.

Okay.

But like, as Marco points out,

Was he part of the decision to pick John LeMay?

Was he the person who said, hey... See, you keep forgetting his first name.

Oh, John LeMay.

Everything should be John, not a Stephen Stephen.

Like, was he the one who said, there's a bunch of great designers out there who love our platform.

Can we go hire some of them?

maybe like throw money at them like it's like the ai problem except for with what was supposed to be apple's core competency right let's go get some good people everyone and johnny i've seen left to go to open ai right everyone you know who's not good like all these rumors of like just brain drained from apple people either get rich and leave apple and go do something else or they build their skills at apple and decide to go elsewhere or they get more money somewhere like

If ever Apple is going to overpay people to come back to the company to fix things, it would be, we're having problems in design.

Let's hire some good designers.