John Sweetman

Still only young when he got out of prison.

Moves out of the country, got a job, I think got married, never re-offended, found fate, all that sort of stuff.

The possibility of rehabilitation is there, but can you take that out of something as nasty?

If it's in them, I don't know.

If I went to do, let's say, if I was travelling around to find out where I was going, delivering fucking takeaways,

I wouldn't be able to get that much detail with a smartphone.

This guy was doing it without any of that stuff.

He didn't have a computer or stuff like that.

He was old school because he was cutting out pictures from magazines and stuff like that and sticking them in his letter.

It sounds like something out of Blade and Silence of the Lambs.

You know what it's like?

It was a bit like... It sounds like Psycho as well.

I remember Seven.

I remember the movie Seven.

Yeah, Brad Pitt.

Yeah, you had all these ledgers with all this stuff, just full of this stuff.

it's just it was unbelievable you know john what was the most high profile case you've worked on um with the handwriting really you know i've been in different murder investigations and stuff like that uh but i'd say probably the most high profile one was the hall murders the whole family up in cavern yeah um i don't know that one what was that

The husband, Alan Haw, had murdered his wife and his three sons and then took his own life.

So the whole family was wiped out.

He was a teacher, wasn't he?