Johnny Dunleavy

And Dean McManamy, who crossed it, I have to say now from the brief Clemsons that I've had of him and watching him on Monday,

He seems to be one that has really grasped his opportunity and shown a lot of bottle when he's in there and playing and on the ball.

He's not afraid to get on and play.

So for me, he probably is more of a centre forward.

But as I say, the manager, his job now is going to be to find solutions, not problems.

And that's going to be one for him.

I'd say from what I've seen of them, Steve, that honesty of effort probably isn't something that they've been suffering from.

It's probably been more individual errors maybe and maybe not, you know, at times maybe not fully understanding systems, maybe sometimes not even taking their chances as well.

So I don't actually think their honesty or their application is really in question.

But I think, you know, sometimes you'll hear a manager saying, and I used to hate it when I was playing.

I used to absolutely hate it.

You might lose a game or two and the manager would come in and he'd say, right lads, we're going back to basics.

But I suppose when you take a step away from it and you look back at it or you look at it from the outside, it's absolutely right and it's absolutely what's needed.

And from what Vinnie says and from the gauge that you can get of Graham Coughlin, first and foremost, he's going to make them very, very hard to beat.

I would imagine anyway and that's vital for Waterford they can't afford to be losing too many more games and I hope he does have that instantaneous impact on them I mean he's got there's plenty of experience in the squad there you know from Kevin Long to Pauly Gammon the lads on the side it won't take him long to get the grips of what he's got and then it's just about using it right and hopefully he can

I'd imagine so, Steve Owen, as I say, that first and foremost, it's just about making them hard to beat or being hard to beat.

And going to Inchicore is a very tough, very, very tough place for anyone to go, let alone, I suppose, for a new manager coming in and trying to make a stamp on a team.

I suppose from a St Pat's point of view, as you mentioned earlier, the real winners over the weekend were Shamrock Rovers in terms of results.

And it was a disappointing weekend, really, for Pat's.

Particularly, probably particularly the Galway game.