Jon Favreau

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The Ezra Klein Show · Jon Favreau on Where the Democrats Went Right · 11 Oct 2025 podcast

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I think the side of the debate where people did not want to shut down is that uh the party that causes the shutdown almost never wins, that uh it was going to be impossible to wring any concessions out of the Trump administration. matched

So why are Democrats closing down the government? matched

What is the end game? matched

What counts as a win? matched

How do you get out of it once you get into it? matched

And would Democrats who do not have as big a megaphone as Donald Trump and do not use it as well, would they really be able to make their case about the shutdown in a way that is as effective or more so than Donald Trump? matched

The other side of the argument is matched

Donald Trump has basically usurped the power of Congress on a number of levels, whether it's tariffs, whether it's rescisions, whether it's impoundment, whether it's all of his immigration policy, whatever else. matched

But he is on a number of those fronts possibly violating the law. matched

And things are getting pretty scary in America right now. matched

And this is sort of the one leverage point that Democrats will have between now and the midterms to matched

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not just force changes in how Donald Trump behaves, but also grab people's attention. matched

And also that argument is if we don't shut the government down, if we don't move forward, Donald Trump is just going to continue governing exactly as he's governing. matched

And he's going to continue to impose tariffs. matched

He's going to continue to do immigration enforcement exactly as he's doing it now. matched

And nothing will change. matched

And then we'll have the midterms and maybe that will be enough for Democrats to win. matched

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