Jon Mackenzie

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464 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard May 2026 last heard 30 Aug

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The Athletic FC Podcast · What If… Guardiola never became a manager? · 30 Aug 2026 podcast

Yeah, and I think there's a lot of people who will always hold that against Guardiola and say, well, you did it with great players.

But again, you know, the rest of that team, we've already run through it.

They were incredible.

I think they probably would have managed better.

Either way, I've actually got some other what-ifs in terms of what could have happened around that period.

So Guardiola is at Barcelona beating in 2007, previous season, before he becomes a boss in 2008.

Luis Enrique was supposed to take over from...

take over head of Pep, that Barcelona B team in 2007.

So there could have been a world in which Luis Enrique was the guy who took over instead of Pep when he takes over in 2008.

So a little one there.

And then Arsene Wenger, to come back to the name that you mentioned before, he was on the shortlist as well to replace Rijkaard along with Pep and Mourinho.

So there's a world in which Arsene Wenger has made the Barcelona manager as well.

And those are just a couple of sliding doors moments there as well.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

I think the money question is a valid question, right?

There's the things that Guardiola achieved.

He has to do it with the players that he has.

And, you know, there's some nice quotes in the book where he essentially says the way I want to play, if you don't have the players to do it, forget about it.

So he's very aware of that and will often say, I couldn't have done this without the players.

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