Jonathan Alger

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1,653 appearances 4 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2026 last heard 11 Aug

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Making the Museum · Improving the Visitor Experience with Data, with Ryan Auster · 11 Aug 2026 podcast

Thank you.

Super interesting.

So I I had a a guest a number of episodes ago who works at Liberty Science Center or who worked there named Liza Rawson and and she did a a show with me that was called Start with Who's It For?

The idea being it's well the from a curatorial point of view, from a constructibility point of view, from a design experiential point of view, the

team is coming at it from a from that side of things and working their way back to the visitor, but the visitor comes in the other direction, hypothetically, literally, I suppose also.

They come from outside the museum in, but they also do that mentally.

They're they're coming in with no preconceived notions.

They may or may not know a thing about forks.

They may or may not care about forks.

We m we may need to quickly get them to care before we we take them down the fork road.

But then knowing who's it who is this for is and you've said that several times.

I just want to sort of underline that.

And I I also want to underline that for the dear listener, although we're going to move on to talk about something even more more detailed, using this as a fundamental springboard, Ryan has just sort of also laid out the stages of evaluation.

We talked about front-end evaluation before you even have a project, formative evaluation, which is what you do when you have an idea to evaluate.

evaluate against.

That can be a very early idea.

It could also be an idea midway along.

It's any at any point you're forming it.

Whether you're close to being formed or whatever.

And then summative evaluation is is when you've finished the Museum of Forks.

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