Jonathan Courtney

Dude, I learned it from your podcast.

Yeah, I'm getting better at moving or knowing when I want to move between Cloud Code and Cloud.

One thing I will say is, so a friend of mine who's running a company called Pipdex, he's gone thousands of levels deeper than me into all this Cloud Code stuff, also watching your channel and learning from it.

And his co-founder messaged me the other day and he was like, John,

Ask user question, use the ask user question skill for designing your webinar and ask it to like really grill you.

And so what I did is I like trained a cloud project on the webinar structure that I like the best.

And I have it do like a 30 minute ask user question flow on me.

And the end results coming from that, when I'm doing it in cloud code, just because it's quicker, it feels quicker, just hitting the one, two, three, whatever.

is something that's making me feel like I might just move the whole thing to Cloud Code.

But for now, I'm just feeling good about having the two separate interfaces.

Dude, I didn't know.

Remember, we met in May and we were in San Francisco and I was going to all these AI events with you and I was like, I'm basically using AI as a search engine.

The end.

The search engine slash light assistant and it's a couple of months later and every single interaction, every single business process at AJ and Smart now hasn't

AI automated element.

But I will warn other CEOs out there, it's very easy to optimize for the wrong thing and end up spending... It's okay if it's for fun, but don't be me and Laura.

And one of the things Laura said, she's running the business with me, she was like, I spent three days building this proposal builder and then I asked Claude...

Would it be easier for me to use an off-the-shelf solution?

And then Claude gave me an off-the-shelf solution that we could have used from day one and have it all connected.

And so there's the warning of you don't have to build everything completely custom.