Jonathan Drennan

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221 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 2 Jul

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The Counter Ruck: The Irish Times Rugby Podcast · Can Joe Schmidt’s Wallabies upset Ireland? · 2 Jul 2026 podcast

And the messaging we're getting from Rugby Australia is that everything's in hand.

You know, Joe and Les, they're working super, super closely.

It's going to be as smooth as possible.

But yeah, absolutely.

In an ideal world, Joe probably by his own.

I mean, Joe, I think would be very, very happy to leave after the Lions.

But the way it worked with Kiss's contract with the Reds, which is,

Kind of hard to understand, I think, for anybody from Ireland, because essentially it would be like monster, you know, not allowing someone to leave.

Those queens and reds aren't under kind of the Rugby Australia purview.

They're independent.

So, no, it's not ideal.

But the proof will be in the pudding.

I think we'll wait and see.

Well, they've basically tried to...

Poppy, for want of a better word, the Irish model.

So we have the Western Force, Waratahs, Brumbies and the Reds.

The Brumbies and the Waratahs are now directly under the management of Rugby Australia, whereas Western Force are basically bankrolled by one of Australia's richest people, Andrew Forrest.

They're independent and independent.

Also, the Reds, who are actually quite successful financially, they don't need to be taken over, essentially, by Rugby Australia.

So that is a challenge in terms of Les Kiss.

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