Can Joe Schmidt’s Wallabies upset Ireland?
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The Counter Ruck: The Irish Times Rugby Podcast
24 min
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello and welcome along to the Counter Rock Rugby Podcast brought to you by the Irish Times in partnership with Oak Energy.
What is the significance of the upcoming match between Ireland and Australia?
Ireland are taking on the Wallabies this weekend. A return of Andy Farrell's side to competitive action. Regular listeners will remember Jonathan Trennan. Belfast born, living in Sydney, working for the Sydney Morning Herald. This is his Christmas, I suppose, whenever Ireland play Australia. And we like to get him on to chat all things Wallabies, especially with the Joe Schmidt angle down under. So here is Jonathan to preview this weekend's first test of the Irish summer. Jonathan Drennan, hello, welcome back. Our Belfast man down in Sydney, Sydney Morning Herald reporter. How are you? Yeah, the Jonathan Drennan derby is back, but on home soil for you this time.
Oh, you don't say home. It's very conflicted at the moment because I was just coming out of the Irish press conference and the Wallabies press conference. And I just didn't really know what side of the divide to sit on because people refer to the Irish reporters and the Australian reporters. And I really didn't know where to sit. But it's great to be back on with you and really, really excited ahead of this test, Nathan.
If only it was a three test series and not a one-off test.
Why is Joe Schmidt still coaching the Wallabies?
off we go and Australia very quickly fades out of view as we'll all be distracted by Eddie Jones in Japan next week and then the All Blacks the week after. What say you on Nations Championship as opposed to the old multi-test tours down under?
Yeah, I mean, I think in terms of a financial point of view, I think Rugby Australia would be very, very happy to have County Coogee, County Scarborough in Western Australia, and where else? County St. Kilda in Melbourne, all turning out to see, you know, full attendance is really in Australia. I mean, the Our supporters are phenomenal in Australia. Not that I'm biased, but they really do come out and support. So I think traditionally, Ireland, France and England would be the best attendees in terms of tests, obviously New Zealand, but in terms of the countries that come. But in terms of the Nations Championship, I quite like it, actually. I mean, I think more games, more ways of keeping me employable, Nathan.
So I'm just delighted Test Rugby's back because we've had Super Rugby here, which I know people at home complain about the URC and everything else. But Super Rugby can be a bit of a slog, especially as Australian teams aren't particularly competitive. So this is a great way to start. I think Ireland obviously had a really, really good victory against a fairly tired Wallabies in November, but we're really convincing winners. It'd be very, very interesting to see how a slightly more refreshed Australian team with a few key injuries back can do against an Ireland team who are really, really looking good.
Let's talk about that then, because both teams are out. So we're getting maybe some of the specifics there, but... Just give us an update on the latest in this handover process, because I think when the Australia were last in town, there was people saying it may or may not have been Joe Schmidt's last gig, but he's still there. He hasn't quite handed over to Les Kiss yet.
No, you're spot on. Joe Schmidt has had more farewell tours than Frank Sinatra, and not through any fault of his own. So basically, he was initially appointed... early 2024 after the disastrous 23 World Cup, he was persuaded literally to just take on the Wallabies and get them competitive for the Lions. Then, to cut a long story short, his close friend, Les Kiss, from their days working together in Ireland, wanted to take on the job. But basically, Queensland Reds were looking for a payout, which Rugby Australia essentially couldn't afford. So the easiest way to really have a smoother handover is for Joe to extend his time, essentially, with the Walbys. But that's how it worked out. So I think, you know, the proof will be in the pudding how it actually works out.
And there's been a bit of talk here.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:04–0:11
2
What is the significance of the upcoming match between Ireland and Australia?
0:11–1:22
3
Why is Joe Schmidt still coaching the Wallabies?
1:22–5:10
4
How did the Wallabies perform against Ireland last November?
5:10–12:39
5
What are the key changes in the Wallabies' lineup for this match?
12:39–24:15
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