Jonathan Goldstein

No, no, no, I'm just kidding.

Yeah, we're doing our ninth season.

Yeah.

There was.

Well, the simplest is that I like having a job.

I found out when the show was canceled that I wasn't very good at not having a job.

I had been kind of on various deadlines.

Like before this, I had a show in Canada on the CBC for 11 years.

It had been just kind of like 20 years of deadlines.

Wiretap, yeah, that's right.

I found not having a job difficult.

And being back at it has given me a renewed appreciation.

But I love... I think I love... It is a way for me to feel things and live, interact with people and life in a way that, for me, is preferred, I guess.

There's a certain kind of safety about...

being alone in the attic studio a lot of the time and thinking things through in a way that I can't in real time.

I don't feel like I'm great in real time.

Yeah, yeah.

There's definitely like – you say closure.

I think like that is – yeah, that is always kind of like the imaginary finish line.

I don't think most of the episodes get there, but it is true what you also say about the process of getting there.