Jonathan Liew

You didn't play anyone good.

So you've never beaten anyone good.

You lose to the first big nation you come up against.

Euros 2021, they beat Germany and they reach the final.

Yeah, but you're on home soil.

You know, you can't really...

And it's this sort of thing where nations become bad by virtue of having been beaten by England.

So 2022, they played brilliantly against France in the quarterfinals and they're a penalty kick away from potentially going all the way there.

Yeah, but, you know, you've fallen short again.

And then Euro 2024, they reach the final.

Like, very unlikely.

Oh, yeah, but, you know, again, you didn't beat anyone good because, you know, Netherlands aren't a big footballing nation anymore.

And also you played terribly.

It basically comes down to this, isn't it?

If they win, then...

The whole thing is, you know, the whole project almost is vindicated.

And I think I've talked myself into this.

I think they will.

And I think because when I'm looking at teams going into a national tournament, I'm always asking, what's their motivation?

What's their greater purpose?