Jonathan Metzl
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 12 Apr
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So obviously I'm a white American.
I'm a white Southerner.
I was doing focus groups.
And so I'm not trying to say like my own people are crazy or rational.
I mean, they are at times for certain voting patterns and things like that.
But I would say that there was a kind of emphasis on a kind of tribal identity politics, a kind of
sense that there's only so many resources, and if you don't get them, other people are going to take them.
And so I've been seeing this.
I mean, obviously, we have a long history in the south of the Civil War and other horrible moments of our history.
But more recently, I'll never forget, I was doing research around the Affordable Care Act, and I was doing a focus group
And I was interviewing one man and I said, you know, he was quite medically ill.
And I said, you know, if the Affordable Care Act goes through in Tennessee and your politicians support it, you'll get dialysis, which you need to stay alive.
And he said, you know, I realize that's probably the case, but I'm not going to vote for.
And the quote he used is, I'm not going to vote for any system in which my tax dollars are going to support Mexicans and welfare queens.
That was the quote he used.
and so the idea was basically there's only so much resource and either i'm going to get it or undeserving others are going to get it and i've just seen how that narrative was manipulated to make people feel like they were in competition with each other when in fact as a doctor and as a health policy expert i can tell you we're much better off if we collaborate i mean healthcare systems as one example from my work work much better if everybody's kind of
rowing in the same direction.
And so in a way, trying to get people to feel like they weren't in common cause with other people is partially why our politics are so tribal.
Well, I think there's a very powerful narrative that there's only a certain amount of resource and other people are wanting what you have.
Or if you don't get it, somebody else is going to take it to your detriment.
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