Jonathan Palmer

Well, interoperability has been one of these things that I've been talking about with guests for years.

And, you know, I think we're further along than we were five, 10 years ago.

But from your perspective, you know, is there still a lot of work to be done on interoperability?

And, you know, where do you think we ultimately get to, I don't know, in the next five, 10 years?

I hear that HIPAA reason all the time, and it's always a head scratcher if you actually think about the context that it's being used in.

You know, you mentioned the administration and being in Washington.

How important is what's going on there right now?

And maybe to characterize it as a fluid situation with this administration, what are you looking for out of Washington and what are you really paying attention to in terms of new legislation that's coming down the pike?

What are you advocating for?

And so do you see that just coming through another CMS rule?

You know, how is that ultimately going to come to culmination?

Well, you know, it's all part of the budgeting process.

Got it.

You know, if we think about Athena as kind of a derivative on those physician reimbursements, right, that's how you guys make money from charging your clients.

Can you talk to me a little bit more?

And we touched upon this with the risk-taking around revenue cycle, but can you just talk about the revenue model?

At Athena?

Got it.

And then for somebody who's switching from a legacy provider into Athena and Athena One,

You know, what's the rule of thumb in terms of the ROI that they get from from that that switch or how do you kind of how do you from a financial perspective pitch the idea?