Jonathan Swan
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 15 Jul
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Fresh Air · Gold, secrets, never-ending meetings: Inside the Trump White House · 15 Jul 2026
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That being said, what I just said before about the process being the punishment...
He is also happy just to see all these people have to go through the pain.
You know, being investigated by the government is expensive.
It can ruin your employment.
It can put your family through all kinds of stress.
And so all of these people in Trump's crosshairs, whether it be James Comey, Jack Smith, Letitia James, John Bolton, go down the list,
their lives have all been turned upside down to different degrees.
And most of them don't publicize it, but many of them have to pay for their own private security.
They live under threats.
Their lives have changed.
And Trump is very happy about that.
When Trump returned to the White House, the resident staff had made everything basically the same way it was when he left in the first term.
When Trump got back, though, he immediately concluded that there was room to have more gold there.
He said publicly and privately that he would have liked to have done more with the White House in the first term, but it was hard because he was under siege from investigators and so forth.
This time we write in the book, you know, he really could unleash his inner Louis XIV.
You know, the history of the Oval Office and the White House has been of modesty when it comes to design and decoration, reflecting the fact that America is a republic, not a monarchy.
Trump has no use for that history.
And in fact, I traveled with President Trump to the Middle East, you know, palace after palace.
And it was really instructive to watch him with these Middle Eastern rulers interacting
He was just in a state of absolute pleasure, going from one palace to the next, admiring the marble, looking at the most rarefied displays of state wealth on earth.
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