Jonathan Swan

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362 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 15 Jul

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Fresh Air · Gold, secrets, never-ending meetings: Inside the Trump White House · 15 Jul 2026 podcast

Yeah.

The upside from that level of secrecy is no leaks.

The downside is Trump is not given access to the expertise that he needs to make big decisions.

And I think this is a very stark example of that.

We're unpacking record-breaking nominations for Hacks, plus a big day for The Pit and newcomers like Widow's Bay.

We'll talk about some snubs and make some early predictions of who will win.

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And here's another thing that's really important when it comes to the retribution campaign.

And that's that for Donald Trump, the process is the punishment.

And his former deputy attorney general, now Attorney General Todd Blanche, had real doubts about the validity and the strength of the evidence that the DOJ had against Letitia James.

Yes, exactly.

And she was right at the top of Trump's enemies list and he wanted her prosecuted.

And Trump told an advisor, I don't really care if we get a conviction.

I just want to make her life miserable.

And so Trump understands, partly because he went through it himself, that the process of being investigated by the federal government is itself a punishment.

And he is directing his Justice Department to

to put his enemies through that punishment, regardless of the facts.

Well, one of the reasons why he, maybe the

The main reason why he got rid of Pam Bondi, his first attorney general, was because he was dissatisfied with the pace of prosecutions and the effectiveness of this campaign to imprison his political opponents and enemies.

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