Jonathan V. Last

There was a Texas mega church that gave, you know, was working with some aid program and they freaked out.

And so they were able to get right.

Yeah.

Yeah, two things here.

I mean, so you had two things happening when USAID was...

fed into the wood chipper.

You had half of the Trump administration saying, yes, we did it.

We killed the whole thing.

And then you had other people like Marco Rubio saying, nothing has changed.

All we've done is shifted it in more responsible ways.

Do you remember this?

Yeah.

Yeah.

All the critical aid is still happening.

That was just waste, fraud and abuse.

Right.

And now we have, you know, you wait one year and then you're like, see, we can get rid of even this other stuff that we said we had saved.

It is interesting that the American foreign policy now is both we don't want any Somali immigrants to America, and also we don't want to help make things better for Somalis in Somalia.

Those things would seem to be intention, right?

If you are interested in controlling immigration flows, one way to do that is to help the on-the-ground situation in the sending countries so that people don't feel like they need to leave.