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Jonathan V. Last

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

You make a really good distinction there. Because sometimes this, you know, the pushback is, oh, this is ageist and we need to respect our elders. If you want to work till you die, I'm for that. I don't care. I mean, I understand. Maybe it's smarter to want to spend some of your golden years with your grandchildren. All this is a personal choice.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

You make a really good distinction there. Because sometimes this, you know, the pushback is, oh, this is ageist and we need to respect our elders. If you want to work till you die, I'm for that. I don't care. I mean, I understand. Maybe it's smarter to want to spend some of your golden years with your grandchildren. All this is a personal choice.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

You make a really good distinction there. Because sometimes this, you know, the pushback is, oh, this is ageist and we need to respect our elders. If you want to work till you die, I'm for that. I don't care. I mean, I understand. Maybe it's smarter to want to spend some of your golden years with your grandchildren. All this is a personal choice.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

If you started a PR firm and some 30-year-old young buck is trying to kick you out... Fight back. Keep working. I don't care. It doesn't matter what you do. Whatever you need to feel fulfilled, I'm for. This is public service. And this was my thing with the Biden thing the whole time. And I wrote several columns about this. This is not about you. This is not about your legacy.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

If you started a PR firm and some 30-year-old young buck is trying to kick you out... Fight back. Keep working. I don't care. It doesn't matter what you do. Whatever you need to feel fulfilled, I'm for. This is public service. And this was my thing with the Biden thing the whole time. And I wrote several columns about this. This is not about you. This is not about your legacy.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

If you started a PR firm and some 30-year-old young buck is trying to kick you out... Fight back. Keep working. I don't care. It doesn't matter what you do. Whatever you need to feel fulfilled, I'm for. This is public service. And this was my thing with the Biden thing the whole time. And I wrote several columns about this. This is not about you. This is not about your legacy.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Your legacy is 100% immaterial to anyone except for you and Jill and And your grandkids like that's it. And so and frankly, you're harming it by what you're doing. But like there's just has been so much focus on all of that rather than focus on this is public service. The threats are very great right now. And as a leader, you need to do what is in the public interest first.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Your legacy is 100% immaterial to anyone except for you and Jill and And your grandkids like that's it. And so and frankly, you're harming it by what you're doing. But like there's just has been so much focus on all of that rather than focus on this is public service. The threats are very great right now. And as a leader, you need to do what is in the public interest first.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

Your legacy is 100% immaterial to anyone except for you and Jill and And your grandkids like that's it. And so and frankly, you're harming it by what you're doing. But like there's just has been so much focus on all of that rather than focus on this is public service. The threats are very great right now. And as a leader, you need to do what is in the public interest first.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

And, you know, I just think that you pointed that out perfectly. And then you add into that just. The fact that there's been no, I think finally the pressure is starting to build for the Democrat leadership class to reconsider this. Because just the idea that after the Biden catastrophe, that Jerry Connolly won a leadership battle against AOC to run the oversight committee, it was preposterous.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

And, you know, I just think that you pointed that out perfectly. And then you add into that just. The fact that there's been no, I think finally the pressure is starting to build for the Democrat leadership class to reconsider this. Because just the idea that after the Biden catastrophe, that Jerry Connolly won a leadership battle against AOC to run the oversight committee, it was preposterous.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

And, you know, I just think that you pointed that out perfectly. And then you add into that just. The fact that there's been no, I think finally the pressure is starting to build for the Democrat leadership class to reconsider this. Because just the idea that after the Biden catastrophe, that Jerry Connolly won a leadership battle against AOC to run the oversight committee, it was preposterous.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It was preposterous at the time. I'm not on the AOC 2028 bandwagon. Objectively, AOC was the right person to lead oversight against this administration, not somebody that had health issues.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It was preposterous at the time. I'm not on the AOC 2028 bandwagon. Objectively, AOC was the right person to lead oversight against this administration, not somebody that had health issues.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

It was preposterous at the time. I'm not on the AOC 2028 bandwagon. Objectively, AOC was the right person to lead oversight against this administration, not somebody that had health issues.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

And she was good on that committee. I mean, the things you and I might not love about AOC were not germane to her performance on that committee. Correct. Because that committee was not about Medicare for all. It was not about foreign policy. It was just about the blocking and tackling of working really hard and communicating Republican corruption to the country. And she's really good at that.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

And she was good on that committee. I mean, the things you and I might not love about AOC were not germane to her performance on that committee. Correct. Because that committee was not about Medicare for all. It was not about foreign policy. It was just about the blocking and tackling of working really hard and communicating Republican corruption to the country. And she's really good at that.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

And she was good on that committee. I mean, the things you and I might not love about AOC were not germane to her performance on that committee. Correct. Because that committee was not about Medicare for all. It was not about foreign policy. It was just about the blocking and tackling of working really hard and communicating Republican corruption to the country. And she's really good at that.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I guess just since we're here and we're doing the Biden book tour, do you have any additional Biden thoughts you want to share? And have any of the revelations from the past week brought any nuance or color to your views or same as it ever was?

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1048: Jonathan Chait: House GOP Doesn't Care How Bad the Bill Is

I guess just since we're here and we're doing the Biden book tour, do you have any additional Biden thoughts you want to share? And have any of the revelations from the past week brought any nuance or color to your views or same as it ever was?