Jonathan V. Last

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2,498 appearances 12 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 3d ago

Jonathan V. Last’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The Bulwark Daily · Jonathan V. Last and Robert Kagan: Marco and Miller Go Full Fascist · 29 Jul 2026 podcast

Does he think that he is going to exit this with Iran not controlling the Strait? voice-verified

Because I have to be honest, I don't see how that happens. voice-verified

I don't know. voice-verified

Let's pull on this string a little bit. voice-verified

Let's talk about some of the consequences of this and what the world begins to change shape into over the coming years. voice-verified

I mean, the first thing I think about is China and how the relationship between Iran and China changes. voice-verified

I mean, if Iran controls the straight, then it means that China really controls the straight and that China voice-verified

Maybe not that far, but they have a great deal of influence over the flows of oil from there, which means that within the Indo-Pacific, everybody there who's getting their oil from the Middle East needs to start making side deals with China as well. voice-verified

Right. voice-verified

I mean, doesn't this change the entire strategic calculus of the Pacific theater? voice-verified

And nuclear proliferation. voice-verified

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