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Jonathan V. Last

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Lots of things could happen.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Here's what I say.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Yesterday turned out as well as you could have asked for it to turn out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

If you and I had sat down and say, what are the results that would be the best possible case scenario?

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

It would have looked basically like what we got.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Like that's necessary, but not sufficient for rolling back all this stuff.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

No, but I would say that we are never going to be able to go back to where we came from, which is bad.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Like, you know, Sarah is like, oh, we'll just build something that's new, but even better that fixes all the faults of the old systems.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And I'm like, that's not how these things work.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Like we might get the chance to build something new, but it'll still be a slightly crappier version of what we used to have.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

That's that's just how it always is.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And shitification.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

It's in shitification.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

The shitification of America.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And that's the best case scenario.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

Right.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

The best case scenarios.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And but I've I have given up the hope that we could ever go back to American political life as it existed before.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

For my entire lifetime, from essentially like 1980, I was a kid, a little kid in 1980 to 2015.

The Bulwark Podcast
Jonathan V. Last and Carol Leonnig: The Danger of a Weakened Bully

And I think that world is gone.