Jonathan Wilson

I mean, the amount of people who say, I hate seeing the Tottenham Hotspur manager

chew gum it might seem like a little bit and it probably won't mean anything if you're winning and people roll their eyes but actually optics matter that's that's very interesting

Yeah, just about.

Yeah, because we're doing some stupid time in the morning, aren't we?

Because I've got to fly back to London in order to fly to Buenos Aires because this is a very stupid time in my life.

Okay.

Hang on, Max.

No, you will, because by tomorrow, I'll have been at Border Glimpy Tottenham, and you will absolutely be asking me about Border Glimpy Tottenham.

You're doing journalism in its purest form in this podcast.

Well, probably the first time about midnight 30 as my wife came back from the Oasis concert.

Right.

And then again at 3 a.m.

to get a taxi to the airport.

Wow.

Less sadness and just confusion.

There was definitely a moment where I was like, I don't know where I am, I don't know what I'm doing, what's going on.

I probably could have got away with leaving half an hour later, but the problem is I have to write a newsletter for the Guardian for the US market, so I needed to be sure I had time to finish that before the flight, which would have been a great idea if security Heathrow actually opens at 4, but it seems to open around about 4.20.

Just a little tip for anybody who is planning on doing any writing in the Pret-a-Manger in Terminal 2.

So the taxi was coming at 3.30.

I probably don't need that long, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.