Jonathan Wilson

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The Overlap · 2: Football's Coming Home: How England Won The 1966 World Cup | Part Two · 24 Jun 2026 podcast

Seeing England go ahead after eight minutes through Joe Baker.

Yes.

But Joe Baker, I mean, he's a really interesting figure.

I mean, really, he was Scottish, but by an accident of birth, he ends up playing international football for England, but he played for Hibs for most of his career.

And then Baker suffers a thigh injury just before halftime.

Norman Hunter comes on.

So at this point, you could use substitutes in friendly matches for injuries before halftime.

Norman Hunter then drops into the second half.

He drops into the back four alongside Jack Charlton with Bobby Moore pushing into midfield alongside Bobby Charlton and George Easton.

And what this means is with Ball also in the shuttling role, England suddenly have three runners coming from deep and Spain can't pick them up.

This is exactly what Ramsey done with Jimmy Ledbetter at Ipswich, except he's now doing it with three players.

And it's a point I think Patreon members will know this from our 1990 episode.

Where England suddenly discover playing a back five is not necessarily more defensive than playing a back four.

Maybe it just means your players are coming from different positions and that can be really, really handy.

So Ray Wilson says, their fullbacks didn't know who to mark.

They were standing there ball watching and we ripped them to bits.

And of course, this is very reminiscent of the description of how Harry Johnston, the Portsmouth and England centre-back, could not handle Nanda Hidikuti dropping off in that Hungary game when Hungary beat England 6-3 at Wembley in 1953.

You pull your forwards away from the defenders and the defenders have got a problem.

Yeah, it's the last friendly they played before the World Cup.

So, yeah, I mean, England have been really good in Spain and people in the know have started to wake up.

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