Jonathan Wilson

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The Overlap · 2: Football's Coming Home: How England Won The 1966 World Cup | Part Two · 24 Jun 2026 podcast

So, yeah, he hasn't been dropped.

He just hasn't played because he's not fit.

Others, though, are less convinced.

And Peter Lorenzo, of course, was a London-based journalist and maybe was more inclined to be sympathetic to Greaves than others.

So Jeffrey Green, now Jeffrey Green was, at the time, the great doyen of English football writers writing in the Times.

and so after the game in Poland so the 1-0 win just before the World Cup where Greaves does play Green writes Greaves continues to follow his own infuriating path and I think he you can see him really struggling to reconcile what he's seen what he knows to be true with the received wisdom of English football and he doesn't he's not quite confident enough to go against that received wisdom but

But the doubt is there.

And the person I think is really interesting in this is Bobby Charlton.

Bobby Charlton is somebody who absolutely believes football is about individuals.

He thought Johnny Haynes should have been in the team in 63 and 64.

He thinks you just put your best players in there and then you work it out.

He's not a systems man.

But even he's having doubts about Greaves.

If Greaves wasn't scoring, and this is in his autobiography, so this is obviously written slightly later.

But he said, if Greaves wasn't scoring, his contribution tended to be not much more than the ornamental.

And so Dave Bowler, who wrote a really, really good biography of Ralph Ramsey, he says for him, the question for Ramsey is,

There was a sort of underwhelming win over Denmark where Hurst comes in for Greaves.

Because after that game, he said, the question is, it's not whether Greaves should be partnered by Hunt or Hurst, but whether it should be Hunt with Hurst or with Greaves.

And I think nobody's really appreciated that, that it's a choice between Greaves and Hurst.

It's not between Hurst and Hunt to partner Greaves.

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