Jonny Holland

We don't really talk, we're not, and most media outlets are talking about his, his interview that he gave.

Um,

Look, maybe he does feel like that.

Maybe he does feel he doesn't get the rub of the green or the reporting that he deserves.

I would have thought that the Irish media are very complimentary to what Leo has done and what Leinster have done over the last number of years.

Yes, there is a frustration around it, but the media have to report why Geordie Barrett and question Leo why he didn't actually start that semi-final.

He has to question why Keane Healy started that semi-final and Porter was on the bench.

And there's a lot of...

Like, it's the media's job to ask questions.

You know, if Leo's a bit uncomfortable with that, he's probably in the wrong sport now at this stage.

And that's why I just thought it was so out of character what he actually said.

I don't believe for one second that the media aren't supportive of Leinster at all.

I think the media give him a pretty fair whack.

I'm sure if he...

In a past life, I worked in the Scottish Rugby Union.

If he wants to know what the media are like there, have a go at it.

Poor Gregor Townsend's getting it on a regular basis because it is like tabloid journalism.

But he doesn't have that here.

Definitely not.

Yeah, look, it's great for Richie and it's great for that Ulster project that's going on that he does get to that final that they haven't gotten in a number of years.