Jordan Jensen

And I think that human nature.

Unfortunately, you're going to need some socialism though, right?

You're going to need the fire department.

This is one of the things that I point to all the time.

People say, oh, socialism doesn't work.

The fire department is an entirely socialist idea.

We all pay into it and they take care of everybody's fire, right?

You can't have only the rich people have a fire department and the poor people, their fucking house burns down all the time.

That's crazy, right?

We all agree to that.

Well, that should be the same with education.

That should be the same with health care.

Are we a fucking community or are we not?

And if we're a community, you have to take care of the downtrodden and you have to do it because it's bad for them and it's also bad for you.

We're all in this together.

So you have to have a social safety net.

I believe in all that.

But I also believe you can't just give people free money because then they rely on it.

And they become dependent on it and then it takes away their ambition and then they don't do anything.

That's true too.