Josh Mankiewicz

Like the nearly stalking-like behavior of making himself omnipresent for both Morgan and Sienna and like not picking up any message that these women wanted to be left alone to do their job.

He didn't get that.

Taking pictures of her without her consent.

Like the thing he thinks is wrong is I should have given her phone back sooner.

You knew what he was going to say.

I knew he was going to say it.

Well, you know, the interesting thing, this is one of the advantages of this job that you and I have, which is frequently when you're interviewing these guys, there's a point where they stop

answering questions from police, like they got a lawyer or they just clammed up, right?

Or in some cases they don't talk at all.

And then they don't testify at trial because they don't want to face cross-examination of whatever story it is that they're telling.

And so this Dateline interview that they do when these guys do it, this is frequently the only time

that they get cross-examined by anybody.

Yeah, I mean, this is a big responsibility for all of us at Dateline because this is frequently the only time that that person is going to get asked any tough questions.

It doesn't happen on the stand.

And, you know, sometimes they'll do one or two or one and a half police interviews, kind of like he did.

Maybe, yes, yes.

You know, and then they're not talking anymore.

They're not talking anymore.

We're actually telling the entire story, right?

And so we always try to talk to everybody involved.