Josh Mankiewicz

But they have a drink together and then something happens.

And...

There's a fight.

And then he realizes, this is the state's theory, that he can't go back.

And they start physically battling.

And he's much bigger and stronger than she is.

Did he go over there to kill her?

Not clear.

Oh, no, this was a very smart guy.

This was a very smart guy.

And, I mean, look, you know, in a lot of jurisdictions in the world, a guy with a criminal record who's caught driving the dead woman's car and runs from police, like, that's your suspect, and everybody can go home early that day.

And you're sticking with him.

Yeah, but to their credit, I think Montgomery County Police thought, this guy's kind of hapless, and he's a thief, and he's kind of a dope, maybe.

But this doesn't feel like the killer.

But it's an avenue in investigative work that you have to go down, because you're going to get asked about it.

I mean, there were a lot of burglaries in that neighborhood.

We should talk about the neighborhood, too, because I know that place very intimately.

Well, yeah.

The neighborhood went downhill after you lived there, right?

Well, and why do we think it went downhill is the question, right?