Josh van Cuylenburg

It's like everyone's facts go in the direction of extremes and feels, I wonder if it's, is it the algorithm that's driving that or is it our brains that are attracted to that?

Like which comes first, the algorithm or the brain?

So interesting.

It occurred to me before when you're talking about reading that I loved what you said then about the consumption of it yourself and what's happening to your brain while you're doing it.

And...

But something else popped into my mind that seems a little bit left of field, but we, in doing this show, Bridge and I have had to speak to a defamation lawyer a couple of times to be just very clear about what we're putting out in the world.

With some episodes, as you would be very familiar with, you want to be very certain that you're doing everything you can to make sure that you're getting the facts right.

And one of the things that this lawyer said was...

what's the cost of making the mistake?

So if someone comes back to you and says that's wrong, what is it going to cost you as a business?

And for us it would be we can reload, we can update the piece of audio on our place where we put the audio so that can change.

On YouTube you can't replace a video so there's a bit of a cost there that we'd have to re-upload and lose some stuff.

And he said typically the appetite for risk in getting the facts wrong is a lot lower in traditional media like print because it costs so much money to reprint something if you've got it wrong or to issue a retraction in the next paper.

And it occurred to me then that by...

And moving your consumption to slower forms of media that are more expensive to produce, it's sort of a great way to filter, to have a funnel and filter on the way in, purely out of that cost of defamation.

No, not so.

They've made plenty of them.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

What you bring up there, I think, alludes to the whole reason why you made the show in that I think for a lot of people when they have that conversation...

There's a basic, like I had a, I'll take the wind out of it to be a lot less divisive issue, but I remember having a chat with a mate on Boxing Day at the cricket and he brought up the idea that the moon landing wasn't real or something like that.