Juan Andres Guerrero Saade (JAGS)

Certainty, people think that certainty is a matter of coherent deduction, that somehow you're sitting here and you have this perfect, cohesive worldview.

That's not actually how it works.

That's not how anything works.

If you questioned everything in your life, you would be paralyzed, right?

If you question that when you get out of bed, you don't know if the floor is going to hold you, right?

You wouldn't be able to function.

He gets us on a train and he goes, oh, look, it's a driverless train.

The train just, you know, and I can't remember, we were talking about something to do with Fast 16.

He stops and he goes, I mean, this is precisely the kind of system that you would degrade with this kind of attack.

You know, there was a collision and they said there was no cyber attack involved.

And then we look at each other and we go, you know, you kind of shrug and you go, well, as far as we know, right?

No, I don't know.

I'm telling you, man, I'm not wired quite the right way.