Juice (Jared McCann)

I don't know.

So I'll say also, like, the Leafs,

There's excitement there, but there's still a lot of questions to remain.

Now, I love the O-Dog.

We've talked a lot about the O-Dog.

We had him on during Olympics.

I kind of appreciate his point of everyone, let's give Chayka a chance here.

And I think Leafs fans, maybe they've turned around in the luck of getting the first overall.

Let's kind of give him a chance, see what he can do.

Everything I said, I reiterated this a few times.

I have no ill will to what he has going on moving forward.

I've repeated that over and over.

Maybe the guy goes on to have success.

I have no clue.

The only reason I'm off the train is what happened when he was a member of the Arizona Coyotes organization and what happened and the way it was left.

And let's not forget how it was left here.

I explained that on the live stream.

Did we explain it last podcast about the situation with the New Jersey situation?

So I think that there were a lot of character flaws early on, and there's a laundry list of them.

Growth is important.