Julian Hoenig

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250 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 5 Jul

Julian Hoenig’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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And we raised a million dollars, which at the time felt like a lot.
Today, it's basically like nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was the market.
It did much better than we did at the time on AI.
I'm sure it's more competent on AI, but I mentioned it because it's certainly something my co-founders and I have been passionate about and tried to use as much as possible in the business.
We've had it as part of our proprietary technologies for almost a decade.
I think 2018, certainly, we were using machine learning.
So yeah, we push it pretty hard.
We actually don't have any limitations on using AI at the company.
We encourage everybody to push the envelope there, but we have very limited cost.
And the reason why we have very limited cost is that we have developed a ton of models in-house.
It turns out that if you're very good people, you can build narrow-purpose models that do one thing really well.
They're pretty dumb in general, but they can do that one thing pretty well.
And they're very cheap.
They're self-hosted, basically.
I mean, almost free, just a little.
And then there are good open-source models you can fine-tune, combine.
Again, they may not be as good as the Frontier models, but if you use them intelligently, we have built our own.
AI orchestrator that will help us make sure that for each task we're using the models that are optimal in terms of cost quality.
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