Julian Rademeyer
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first heard Dec 2013
last heard Jan 2015
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And what was quite surprising about it is that the Boko Haram insurgency has been linked to thousands of deaths and many, many atrocities.
And it seems quite bizarre that people go to lengths of faking a massacre when there's so many other real massacres that have been documented and attributed to the group.
Well, the numbers vary dramatically, and it's extremely hard to count the dead in any conflict, particularly civilian deaths.
There's a dearth of reliable data and reports in Nigeria, and there have been accusations of political manipulation of data.
Earlier this year, the country's president, good luck Jonathan, claimed that 13,000 people had been killed since the start of the Boko Haram insurgency in 2009.
And while that number appears to be broadly correct, there are various figures.
The Nigeria Social Violence Project, which operates under the auspices of Johns Hopkins University in the United States, has recorded just over 11,000 deaths since the start of the insurgency and includes killings not only by Boko Haram militants but also by the Nigerian security forces.
Human Rights Watch this year estimated that around 2,000 civilians have been killed in the first half of 2014.
Amnesty International says 4,000 people have been killed so far this year.
And then you have an organization called the Nigeria Security Tracker, which argues that three to five times more people may have been killed than actually reported.
And its estimates, which begin in May 2011, now stand at around 17,500.
And that includes 6,700 deaths linked directly to Boko Haram and a further figure of close to 11,000 that involves Boko Haram and so-called state perpetrators.
people from the Nigerian armed forces.
And there have been atrocities on both sides.
So somewhere between that, you have estimates of as low as 9,000 and as high as 17,500.
When we fact-checked the claim, we essentially came to the conclusion that Jonathan's 13,000 figure was broadly correct, if you include killings by both Boko Haram and the Nigerian security forces.
Exactly.
And there have been a number of atrocities, some fairly horrific ones that have been attributed to the Nigerian security forces, prisoners who've been executed.
There have been instances where cell phone video has emerged of Nigerian security forces torturing and killing people that they suspected of belonging to Boko Haram.
It's an incredibly messy and very difficult situation.
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