Julianne Schultz

And she says, if you accept that the industrial age has led to the destruction of nature, or is leading to the destruction of nature as we've known it, so through climate change and so on,

What we are now facing in this information age, for want of a better term, is the destruction of our humanity.

I mean, on the one hand, people are reading much more than they ever have.

And there's so much available.

So much available and so much really exceptionally good stuff available.

I mean, I think the evidence points that people skim, they don't read as carefully, that it's that cherry-picking that goes on.

But the access is remarkable.

And the book that you mentioned, Zaboff's book on this...

I mean, what she's done is, I think it's a remarkable piece of work.

It's a big, fat book, but half the book is references.

I mean, she starts off with, I mean, it's quite literary in a sense, you know, that the epigraphs and the framing of it is quite literary.

So she draws on long literary, you know, traditions and stories to tell her story.

She also tells very personal stories about her own life and about the world that she's been moving in and then juxtaposes that with this really, you know, high quality,

you know, sort of analysis, I mean, both an intellectual analysis and a sort of factual analysis of what's going on.

So it's a very easy book to read, which you sort of wouldn't think, you know, when you get this big fat thing in front of you.

And I think that it's that ability to synthesise the literary, the personal and the sort of analytical is what makes it so important.

So I've said to a number of people, don't be daunted by it.

It looks fat and it looks challenging.

But a bit like the sort of pickety book on inequality, it's one of those books that is a pointer to a sea change.

And I think that we are at a moment, an inflection point in time, where a lot is going to change.