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Now it is time to put this sleeping princess kitty back to bed.
Nope, she never woke up.
And get back to the show.
I do want to talk about Elephants Are Not Birds because this is actually, Ashley, when you came onto my radar.
In 2021, you wrote a book called Elephants Are Not Birds where you put your name on a book that was written called Elephants Are Not Birds.
I don't know if you wrote it.
You can let me know.
But Elephants Are Not Birds is a transphobic children's book that, according to the description provided by the book's publisher, quote, tackles the topic of gender identity.
In it, we follow Kevin the elephant as he learns that even though he can sing, he is not a bird, even if culture insists that he is.
One of the phrases on the back of the book says, can a beak and wings make an elephant a bird?
pretty clear what that's suggesting about trans issues.
This is something that you published, profited off of, and has impacted the way that some parents raise their kids, which we'll get to in a second.
But first, I talk a lot on this podcast about the right-wing media ecosystem and how it's primed to financially support and incentivize someone like you to stardom.
with things like bigoted book deals.
So from sort of like a business background like peek behind the curtain perspective, can you tell us about how this book came to be?
Like legally or business contract wise, you're not able to do that.