Justin Gardner
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 24 Mar
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By the time that famous Cell Magazine 2020 article came out, co-authored by Dr. Fauci and David Morenz again, you can see they say this great line, can we at least try to bend modernity to our will? They really thought that they could put forth their hand
and stop the Mississippi River, that is to say, a viral respiratory aerosolized pathogen, and somehow that would, you know, that they could physically manipulate a time in eternity to do that.
Oh, absolutely. There's a great book called The Betrothed by an Italian author. And it's basically a work of fiction, but it was based on actual diaries from the plague in the 17th century in Milan. And you see the same sort of things happening there. They burned all their clothes because they were feared of this thing or that thing.
One instance they talk about, for example, a gentleman in the front pew was seen brushing off his pew with his hand. And they thought that he was spreading the disease further. So they took him outside and the journal entry ends. I do not think he could have survived moments longer. Think about all the beatings, the physical beatings that people took because they weren't wearing a mask somewhere.
I think this is unfortunately part of human nature. And the leaders in that great fiasco in the plague in Milan, which was far more deadly than COVID, they basically took advantage of it for power gain, wealth and otherwise.
No, I think that's right. I think it's good to be welcoming. For some of these people, though, they should never have a hand in public health again. I think Dr. Redfield is making some great comebacks, and he was early on talking about the impact that this would have on kids. It looked like he was doing those CDC discussions from a locked case down in the CDC basement.
But at the same time, there is welcoming room for these people. A lot of these folks, they need to step back and never touch public policy again.
Well, I think there's going to be a lot of room for that discussion now. What a difference a year make. I think we spoke maybe last year, and I was kind of in the camp of Governor Ron DeSantis, who was a great champion for a lot of anti-COVID policies, proving things right and wrong this way and that.
And I had hoped that his candidacy would help bring light to the recompense that we wanted for the even retribution for the changes that we wanted. So our kids and our grandkids never have to go through that. You know, when his candidacy lost there, I dutifully signed on board. I'm a good soldier myself in the Republican Party. And I signed on with President Trump.
But I didn't held high expectations that we would make it. But here we are with nominations, RFK Jr., Jay Bachataria, Marty McCary, all those people you've had on your show. And we have an incredible once-in-a-life opportunity to see some significant changes. Two years ago, Dr. J came with us on the Hill.
We roamed the halls of Congress, and we sat down, we talked to people about the changes we wanted to see at the CDC. One of them is pretty basic, which is the people that make the decisions about the grants of the CDC were also making the policy recommendations for the White House COVID task force.
And so, for example, Dr. Fauci, Dr. Collins, both sat on this committee giving away billions of dollars. The chances of, let's say, a study that might come out against masking getting any funding from the NIH were zero because you can't have the policy people look embarrassed and giving money to funding stuff that counters their policy.
So having a separation of those powers is a great example of things that we can see change. And I think the other thing that Dr. Bhattacharya is talking about has been that sort of cost benefit analysis, understanding that you need to do an assessment as to, What impact will this have down the road?
The first year, recall, Dr. Drew, the first signs of real danger were when oncologists started raising alarms in the spring of 2020. And they said, okay, either COVID has cured cancer or something else is happening because we're seeing half as many patients as we used to. And the reason was that people weren't visiting their doctors, were too scared to go to the hospital.
And that compounded, in some cases, we saw drops of 70, 80% in the number of diagnosed cancers or specific very fatal diseases. And this was tragic. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. So those are things that, I had to pinch myself sometimes to see Marty McCary at the FDA, this man who basically I hold in great regard. And these are people that are not over their skis.
They are well-grounded, well-credentialed, well-published people. And I think that our country is going to be much better off for it.
Yeah, it's very difficult to get rid of entrenched, calcified government bureaucracies. And so they're going to have a large task in front of them. If you ever want to sort of just drive yourself crazy, but also get into the nitty gritty of things, go look at the Federal Register. This is the publication that the government puts out every single weekday. It's 300 to 500, sometimes 700 pages long.
Everything that your government is doing on a daily basis, from tracking minute shrimp viruses to, you know, satellite turnings, and you won't believe it. And whether or not they can name sunblock lotion, sunblock lotion, they're into everything. And it will drive you crazy.
And I'm hoping that we can sum with, you know, I think you just need to trim a lot of this bureaucracy down and we might see some semblance of light.
No, I'm saying, you know, you remember Alex de Tocqueville, he was a French sort of, you know, debutante, this guy who basically came over and he went through the country and he interviewed people left and right, said, what makes America great? And he had some great insights.
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