Karah

And I think what had happened was that's when my dad realized there was some money missing.

A significant amount of money because that has what I've been told my whole life is that it was the murder happened because of money.

There was missing money.

And then once I got older, figured out drugs were involved as well.

And my brother told me, he said, Kara, I remember looking at the table and seeing that money.

And he said he picked some money up and he threw it at my dad.

And he said, get out of our house.

This is double.

We don't need your double money.

Like, what are you doing?

At 10 years old.

Okay.

Like, so back to the day he's holding my mom on a gunpoint.

trying to make sure you get like backstory but also you know fill us in with like what's happening it makes sense you're good and and and that's what yeah that's what it is yeah and honestly it doesn't matter if that's how it plays out in your head exactly i'm like at this point this is right a basket case of a story but guess what it's a beautiful story as well right yeah thank you so um and then yeah that the night that that happened the money and i'm thinking that's when i guess probably the decision was made or

My dad was advised by a certain group of people that, hey, you need to, it's time that you do this or you're not going to have a life.

You can take your pick.

So he had my mom pinned down to the ground with the pistol.

And my mom, for like an hour and a half, she said that she managed to wiggle herself to the back door of our house.

And she said that she started kicking the back door with her foot in hopes that our neighbors that are still her neighbors to this day would see it.

So the phone starts ringing and I assume that's Ryan calling because he had been calling from school the whole morning.