Kareem Rahma

I probably sound like the most insane guest you've ever had.

Okay, great.

We haven't aired those, but... But I think that the CIA has been known to use, like, movies to, like, promote, like, oh, we're going to war in the Middle East.

Yeah, that was a failure.

I didn't finish that.

Just not living in a small town.

It was really a classic.

And it was kind of like a let me go out east and strike gold in the same way that there's a Silicon Valley rush and the gold rush.

And I was like, oh, I'm going to go to New York.

I'm going to get rich and famous.

And that was a long time.

That was 15 years ago.

At the time, I was very much into entrepreneurship in this like the social network had just come out.

That was cool.

Remember for a while, that was really cool.

It was really cool to be like a tech founder.

And I was like, oh, that's the way you do it.

And all these young people were like making so much money.

And I was like, oh, I think I should be a tech guy.

Yeah, it was definitely in pursuit of... You guys got to eat.