Karen Kilgariff

That's so fucking cool. I know. I mean, terribly sad, but also... Because I remember that being in the movie where it's like... It's a tragedy anyway. Yeah. But this was someone who was... Poised on the verge of crossing over at a time before that was like before J-Lo, before any of those things were happening.

That's so fucking cool. I know. I mean, terribly sad, but also... Because I remember that being in the movie where it's like... It's a tragedy anyway. Yeah. But this was someone who was... Poised on the verge of crossing over at a time before that was like before J-Lo, before any of those things were happening.

So she's for Ricky Martin.

So she's for Ricky Martin.

Before like any of that where it was kind of like the sexy, you know, Shakira.

Before like any of that where it was kind of like the sexy, you know, Shakira.

Well, it's also fascinating that thing of like when you can, it's like when you were saying, you know, she's just this random person, but you do trace those things of like a person who embezzles, a person who like those kind of smaller crimes. That's how every story goes like this, where it's like they always have a background where they're trying to get anything they want at any price.

Well, it's also fascinating that thing of like when you can, it's like when you were saying, you know, she's just this random person, but you do trace those things of like a person who embezzles, a person who like those kind of smaller crimes. That's how every story goes like this, where it's like they always have a background where they're trying to get anything they want at any price.

You're not allowed to steal money from other people. It's not your money. No, no, you don't get to have, you have to abide by certain rules in life and not screw other people over. And you don't want to be that person. Like I remember there was a cafe I was working at when I was, uh, a teen and I had it in my mind.

You're not allowed to steal money from other people. It's not your money. No, no, you don't get to have, you have to abide by certain rules in life and not screw other people over. And you don't want to be that person. Like I remember there was a cafe I was working at when I was, uh, a teen and I had it in my mind.

I decided that I could take a $20 bill when I was closing at night so I could buy beer because they only paid me minimum wage. I had this whole rationalization. Totally. And I did it two times, was racked with guilt about it. And then the manager told me, did I tell you this story? The manager who was also my friend, like someone I hung out with, he goes, I don't, something's going on.

I decided that I could take a $20 bill when I was closing at night so I could buy beer because they only paid me minimum wage. I had this whole rationalization. Totally. And I did it two times, was racked with guilt about it. And then the manager told me, did I tell you this story? The manager who was also my friend, like someone I hung out with, he goes, I don't, something's going on.

We're always short. I think it might be the janitor. Oh, And then I was like, oh my, because that's what happens. You steal, somebody else could go down for it. Or like, I mean, the idea that he even would suspect this person who has nothing to do with it. Then I thought maybe he told me that because he knew it was me. Because it was always me. He did. Or it was me the two times.

We're always short. I think it might be the janitor. Oh, And then I was like, oh my, because that's what happens. You steal, somebody else could go down for it. Or like, I mean, the idea that he even would suspect this person who has nothing to do with it. Then I thought maybe he told me that because he knew it was me. Because it was always me. He did. Or it was me the two times.

And that was just a manipulation, which God bless you, Genius Moon.

And that was just a manipulation, which God bless you, Genius Moon.

yeah but also like and then I like the next week I was talking to my dad on the phone and we were talking about something else and then he goes Karen there's some people out there that just can't keep their hands out of the till and then I almost threw up because I was like I almost wanted to go that's me my dad my sweet dad is talking about bad people and I'm the bad person you don't want to be the bad person no

yeah but also like and then I like the next week I was talking to my dad on the phone and we were talking about something else and then he goes Karen there's some people out there that just can't keep their hands out of the till and then I almost threw up because I was like I almost wanted to go that's me my dad my sweet dad is talking about bad people and I'm the bad person you don't want to be the bad person no

You don't you don't need whatever the thing is you think you need. You don't. And get your own. Get your own. Get your own. You can.

You don't you don't need whatever the thing is you think you need. You don't. And get your own. Get your own. Get your own. You can.