Karl Friston
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402 appearances
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first heard Sep 2025
last heard Sep 2025
Karl Friston’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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So if you want to have that as part of your machine consciousness, that means you're going to have to evolve it very much in the way that we grow, you know, we bring up our children.
It's going to have to be a transaction.
with an R L algorithm, uh, you know, um, or use a large language model, go and make me a conscious artifact.
It it's gonna require a lot of lot of interaction, possibly dadic or possibly federated you know, um i in a sort of ecosystem that includes things that can feel or we know that we think feel.
Um I put a lot of emphasis um on on that for for a particular reason, which um
um I will conclude with, but just um just to
Take that key point that Mark just uh made from a technical perspective.
Um, if you remember before I was um glibly saying you can't just use a large language model to say, go and make me an intelligent artifact or use DeepRL, um, I had a reason for saying that.
Um, and the reason is uh exactly what Mark was describing in terms of.
multiple variables that need to that that that um provide constraints on the kind of thing that I am or the states that are characteristic of the kind of thing that I am and if I violate those states then I um will be very surprised.
I will have a high free energy.
So just keeping myself within those um viable range of essential variables of ev of any sort.
Oh.
Is just a definition of existing and living.
And of course, if you're physiologist, it's just a definition of homeostasis and possibly homeoresis and allostasis.
If you're a statistician or at least a statistical physicist, what you're talking about is the maths of multiple constraint satisfaction.
So I would read the multiple categories that Mark was talking about that cannot be collapsed into one.
Dimension.
He was talking about thirst and hunger, for example.
These are two-dimensional structures.
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