Kate Morris

Like if the first thing I said was what mine were or whatever, I think it can detract from what you're trying to celebrate.

And I think there comes a moment where you need to acknowledge if you're doing that deliberately or not deliberately and just like letting people have that and listening.

And on the theme of listening, I was really thinking about like active listening because I'm sure we've all experienced this.

Something that we do so great whenever we're in a social setting, all of our friends do it and I fucking love it, is we all have our phone screen down.

So if we are ever at dinner, no one's phone is up.

And I think that this is a really good thing to do if you're listening to this or watching and you don't already do this.

I don't want to be catching up with a friend who I haven't seen for four weeks, six months, nine months a year and looking at notifications out the side of my eye, right?

Like that is not actively listening.

I want my friends to have 100% of me when I'm in their presence and I want to listen to how they're going.

And

It can just be a bad habit sometimes.

But I think that like that is the thing that I think about with active listening.

It's like these things you can actually do from this episode.

Like the next time you're in a social setting, the next time you have dinner with your partner, put your phone down, have your phone on do not disturb.

Stop letting these things distract you.

And on that point, I was just going to say like...

Let's just say the example of like your partner's like, how was your day?

Like they ask you that question and then you go to respond and they're looking at their phone or they're off with the fairies, whatever.

Triggered immediately.

Right?