Kate Morris

how to communicate better and how to actually not be so afraid of conflict and communication in general.

Yeah, and I think like we can talk about so many different elements, but coming off the back of doing the relationship series, like we always get asked about having those kinds of conversations.

And then if I reflect on like relationship conflict, something that I think we do, as in Ben and I do, I'm sure you and Amar do it as well, is like… Not us.

What do you mean?

Not me and you.

We as well.

But Ben and I don't fight.

The entire time we've been together, if we would ever have a disagreement, something that we are so strong on is we're never going to say something that you can't take back.

Like you're never going to do a low blow.

Like if you've ever had a disagreement with someone who they don't respect you or whatever, they will say those things that are really mean and you can't come back from those.

But I believe that if you really value the friendship, you are never going to do that because why would you want to hurt someone that you love?

It doesn't make any sense.

So again, yes, Kate is of course part of this, but just thinking about Ben and I, like

I would never in the heat of a conflict say something that I know is going to hurt him because you don't want to hurt each other.

So sometimes maybe if you are someone who's very emotional or reactive, really think before you speak because you don't want to damage something that's important to you.

And I think, again, to deal with those conflicts, and we'll speak about this deeper in the episode, but it's just like –

approach it in a way that is going to be productive.

And one more point on this is I always like to think that it's not like you against each other, like two lawyers arguing in a courtroom, right?

It should be you two against the problem.

Like that's how it should be because you're not going to win and you don't need to win if it's just literally like me, you, me, you, me, you.