Kate Shaw

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3,267 appearances 14 recordings 4 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 15 Sep

Kate Shaw’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Strict Scrutiny · All the President’s Henchmen · 17 Aug 2026 podcast

the hard work and like the really important work is what happens before that. voice-verified

Exactly. voice-verified

So then another theme that I think recurs is this don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. voice-verified

And you write, I'll again quote, over and over again, they like the dissidents, folks that you've talked to cautioned us about the dangers of waiting to act until you have the perfect plan, the perfect coalition, the perfect moment. voice-verified

Instead, dissidents argued for an approach that was rigid in principle, but flexible in approach. voice-verified

Julia voice-verified

What what does that approach look like? voice-verified

Right. voice-verified

Yeah. voice-verified

And you know, you're talking about kind of coalitions and big tents. voice-verified

And one theme, another of the themes that recurs is the kind of finding your people theme. voice-verified

And I guess that's maybe a little bit distinct because you're saying voice-verified

The broad tent needs to be really big and maybe will include people that you really disagree with, maybe despise, um, but share some set of goals with. voice-verified

Um, but you also do emphasize the importance of finding voice-verified

political community and you say in the book quote voice-verified

That going without political community is comparable to opting to go without health insurance, exercise, a core group of loved ones. voice-verified

It leaves a massive gap in our personal safety net. voice-verified

And there's you know science that supports this kind of intuition. voice-verified

Ami, you know, what why is community of that sort the critical foundation upon which like so much else rests when we're talking about dissidents and mobilization? voice-verified

And and Julia, the growing piece is of course also critical. voice-verified

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