Kate Shaw

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3,267 appearances 14 recordings 4 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 15 Sep

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Strict Scrutiny · All the President’s Henchmen · 17 Aug 2026 podcast

And you emphasize that inviting people in is key to building engagement. voice-verified

And there's this data that I'd never seen that you offer from a study of fifteen thousand adults that finds that the biggest predictor of protest participation is literally whether the person has been asked to take part in the protest. voice-verified

Is that amazing? voice-verified

I mean, it is just amazing. voice-verified

I mean, there's obviously data like this in campaigns as well. voice-verified

like, you know, door knocking and in person conversation is actually still really effective at, you know, political both persuasion and turnout. voice-verified

And so I guess it's not crazy, but I had not seen this study. voice-verified

But um this the takeaway really is that literally there's not a factor that influences people to take on contentious political activism more than social connection. voice-verified

So I guess yeah Julia, how how does that change how we should think about activism and effective activism? voice-verified

standing in line to visit their loved ones at a detention facility in New Jersey, as you guys write about. voice-verified

And yeah, mutual aid as a big part of the kind of dissident practice is I think another really important through line in the book. voice-verified

But also since you mentioned Joy, um Julie, I love the chapter titles and subtitles, but you have voice-verified

One, and I can't remember if this is a title or a subtitle, but I wrote it down, The Pleasure of Agency and the Joy and Defiance. voice-verified

Like, yeah, there is joy and pleasure. voice-verified

It is not just like this is a grind, but you should do it for like these kind of higher values. voice-verified

Like it's also something that feels good when you do it. voice-verified

And that I think is really important. voice-verified

And people, I think, realize this if they're like dipping their toe in for the first time to this kind of work. voice-verified

So you said, you know, kind of wanting the the book to be useful at at kind of different sorts of interventions. voice-verified

And I actually wanted to ask a very specific question, which is that last Thursday, as part of one of our voice-verified

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