Katherine Ramsland

But he didn't.

He used one with his name in some of the data that he erased, and they were able to track it back to that church.

And the pastor said, yes, Dennis Rader is the president of our congregation, and he's been using the computer.

And that's what his downfall was, is that he didn't have time to make these copies of copies.

Well, I didn't write it.

It was one of our, we had a stable of writers who wrote for the court TV, but, um,

I remember media calling me and, you know, saying, Oh, first of all, they were kind of disappointed that he was such a, like a doughy old family man.

They all wanted the next Ted Bundy.

Right.

It didn't surprise me that much because, because I,

I study serial killers.

We have a lot of serial killers with families and jobs and whatnot.

That formula that they're the loners and whatnot, that's old from the 1990s based on very poor data.

And so it wasn't that big of a surprise to me.

The idea that a man lives a double life, honestly, that's no surprise.

He's not a rare case.

And look, remember Sam Little?

Yes.

Who claimed 93 victims over the course of several decades because he knew how to choose victims that he knew would be well under the radar for

police to put any resources into it.