Katherine Ramsland

There's so much more to the story that has never been put out there.

And it was very interesting.

I'll tell you, Wayne Henley is a really smart,

person, easy to talk to, very articulate.

and has a lot to say about what happened.

Well, that's part of the book, is because my co-author is Tracy Ullman, who did 10 years of work on the Gacy case.

She did a lot of the work on the networking that...

Coral talked about, and we know that Gacy was fascinated with the Coral case.

So but that's Tracy Ullman's part.

And I can have her on the show as well.

We can both be on the show.

But what she brings to the to it was the bigger picture that the police never investigated.

That's why I'm going to CrimeCon is to speak about this book and my experience of talking with Wayne.

That's fascinating.

That's going to be important.