Katherine Ramsland

That's what Eddie's putting out there.

That's where the bad wash day comes from.

Are we getting the full... It's hard.

It's scribbly.

It's not like a narrative that's articulate and well put together.

Just scribbly little notes here and there.

No, because some of it was when he was talking about the murders, he put those in detail and then he used that to create

These chapters.

Yeah, and here's actually what happened because I was working for Court TV at the time their crime library website and we had written a case Written up the BTK cases before Raider was caught so it was laid out, you know, and then as author this attorney in Wichita We decided that he was gonna write a book about the unsolved BTK killings and he had seven and Raider knew there were ten and

So he read an interview with the author and did not want his story told by this guy because it would be the wrong story.

And he wanted to control the narrative.

Yeah.

So he then started writing these long chapters.

He wrote 13 chapter titles.

And then in each of these cereal boxes, he put a chapter in of the murders.

And the funny thing is, though he wanted...

And he denies this, but he's wrong because his chapter titles were our chapter titles.

Yes.

He adds a word here or there.

I never saw any of that.