Katherine Woodward Thomas

So then you say, well, how does it feel in my body

when that pattern happens.

You just imagine the pattern's happening now.

Yeah, when I get rejected.

How do I feel in my body?

Where do I feel it?

And then you say, what's the I am in the center of that feeling?

Yeah, that's how you find the source fracture story in that particular area.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I think what you're talking about is how do I shift centers when I'm really captivated emotionally by the story.

The wounded self, and it does feel very, it is very pervasive, and that's sometimes why it's very hard to language.

Yes.

I think one of the ways that I have found helpful is to name it accurately, to really name it and to give it the age, because once you give it that age,

If you can't get outside of it then, what I sometimes do with people is I have them imagine then like a four-year-old sitting in front of them who just had a trauma and has collapsed into this meaning.

And they are coming as, you know, the light.

And what might they say about this conclusion?

We're talking about the conclusions we came to that limit our lives.

Yes.

So what might they say?

And usually people have enough compassion if they can externalize that younger self to be able to speak to that younger self in a way that brings some light and some hope.