Kathryn Jones Lish

You're always going to have better conversions with a warm audience. Always. Whether you're trying to sell a joint venture or sell a $17 ebook, like, you're always going to have better because they already trust you and like you. But the reality is, is that, like, okay, well, then, great. Like, how do we make that connection quickly so that then we can present an offer to them, right? Like...

I think that so often it's like, oh, well, you need to be a network green group and you need to be friends with them for a year before you ask anything. Like for me, warming them up is just like, oh, you want to be on my podcast? And then literally immediately after the podcast, if it makes sense for me to do a joint venture with them, I will pitch them on the idea right there. Why?

I think that so often it's like, oh, well, you need to be a network green group and you need to be friends with them for a year before you ask anything. Like for me, warming them up is just like, oh, you want to be on my podcast? And then literally immediately after the podcast, if it makes sense for me to do a joint venture with them, I will pitch them on the idea right there. Why?

I think that so often it's like, oh, well, you need to be a network green group and you need to be friends with them for a year before you ask anything. Like for me, warming them up is just like, oh, you want to be on my podcast? And then literally immediately after the podcast, if it makes sense for me to do a joint venture with them, I will pitch them on the idea right there. Why?

Because what's a sale? Somebody's in pain and I have a remedy. So, hey, you have an audience that is in this pain. You just told me on your podcast, you do this, I'm the next step. Like, did you know that I do that? Would you want to partner together on that? Let me tell you why I'm the best. I have a breaking news method. I have step-by-step. We've helped clients do this, this, and this.

Because what's a sale? Somebody's in pain and I have a remedy. So, hey, you have an audience that is in this pain. You just told me on your podcast, you do this, I'm the next step. Like, did you know that I do that? Would you want to partner together on that? Let me tell you why I'm the best. I have a breaking news method. I have step-by-step. We've helped clients do this, this, and this.

Because what's a sale? Somebody's in pain and I have a remedy. So, hey, you have an audience that is in this pain. You just told me on your podcast, you do this, I'm the next step. Like, did you know that I do that? Would you want to partner together on that? Let me tell you why I'm the best. I have a breaking news method. I have step-by-step. We've helped clients do this, this, and this.

And it's actually in a product. We do a 50-50 split on the back end. Is that something you'd like to move forward on? Let them say yes or no to you, right? But I think we just like... build this whole thing up, partnerships, all this thing. And we're like, oh, we got to fly these people out. We got to schmooze them. We got to wind them and dine them.

And it's actually in a product. We do a 50-50 split on the back end. Is that something you'd like to move forward on? Let them say yes or no to you, right? But I think we just like... build this whole thing up, partnerships, all this thing. And we're like, oh, we got to fly these people out. We got to schmooze them. We got to wind them and dine them.

And it's actually in a product. We do a 50-50 split on the back end. Is that something you'd like to move forward on? Let them say yes or no to you, right? But I think we just like... build this whole thing up, partnerships, all this thing. And we're like, oh, we got to fly these people out. We got to schmooze them. We got to wind them and dine them.

And like, you know, there's so much status and ego, like the higher and higher up people get. And I get it. Like, it's just what it is. And, and people do create barriers and all these different things, but. What I love about partnerships and what I think like God was good to help me discover is they are so accessible to the beginner.

And like, you know, there's so much status and ego, like the higher and higher up people get. And I get it. Like, it's just what it is. And, and people do create barriers and all these different things, but. What I love about partnerships and what I think like God was good to help me discover is they are so accessible to the beginner.

And like, you know, there's so much status and ego, like the higher and higher up people get. And I get it. Like, it's just what it is. And, and people do create barriers and all these different things, but. What I love about partnerships and what I think like God was good to help me discover is they are so accessible to the beginner.

They're so profitable for the advanced because they have huge lists. But man, people are sleeping on like some of my best joint ventures were with people that had a Facebook group of 500 people. Because if somebody has a Facebook group of 500 people, those 500 people are like loyalists, right?

They're so profitable for the advanced because they have huge lists. But man, people are sleeping on like some of my best joint ventures were with people that had a Facebook group of 500 people. Because if somebody has a Facebook group of 500 people, those 500 people are like loyalists, right?

They're so profitable for the advanced because they have huge lists. But man, people are sleeping on like some of my best joint ventures were with people that had a Facebook group of 500 people. Because if somebody has a Facebook group of 500 people, those 500 people are like loyalists, right?

because they're why are you following this no name it's because they like love they're like one of the ogs you know foundation which means they're even i would i would dare call them a hot audience rather than a warm and so like my conversions would be crazy so people are like oh well i don't pitch them they have a tiny group i'm like go to the tiny groups like because i would just you know make like 10 30 50 000 just like you know like that it's a 90 minute pitch

because they're why are you following this no name it's because they like love they're like one of the ogs you know foundation which means they're even i would i would dare call them a hot audience rather than a warm and so like my conversions would be crazy so people are like oh well i don't pitch them they have a tiny group i'm like go to the tiny groups like because i would just you know make like 10 30 50 000 just like you know like that it's a 90 minute pitch

because they're why are you following this no name it's because they like love they're like one of the ogs you know foundation which means they're even i would i would dare call them a hot audience rather than a warm and so like my conversions would be crazy so people are like oh well i don't pitch them they have a tiny group i'm like go to the tiny groups like because i would just you know make like 10 30 50 000 just like you know like that it's a 90 minute pitch

So awesome. And so that's what I love about this concept is like, yes, the concepts still apply at like very, very high levels, which again, like we've had clients in the eight figures, nine figures, but the reality is that the framework works at the beginning, but you need to make sure that you can prove you have a tangible result. You're a breaking news method. You actually have case studies.