Kathryn VanArendonk

I actually don't mind Kelly as much.

I have a real problem with Miles.

He is not also bringing that much to the table.

And it is a real unfortunate detraction because I do think on paper there's a lot about this season that I am really, I am maybe more compelled by than I have been the previous couple seasons.

I like setting up the kind of

Mars insurgency against Earth.

I like the kind of political parallels.

I wish it was more Andori, but I think that's rich territory for them.

I like... I have always thought the show is quite good at the physical logistics of what happens when an invading force shows up in a space base and then has to wander around in...

a very different kind of territory than they're ever used to.

That's fun.

I like...

I like the whole Saturn thing, even though it is Kelly's business.

But like I was suddenly back into the delight and joy and surprise of space exploration.

I'm on board.

But kind of the thing about Mars is that it sucks.

Oh, but Dev is going to build a whole Apple campus up there.

You don't know yet.

Yeah.

Yeah.